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Reverse-Clash Lu Ma: Bing-Wu, Ding-Si and the Different Source Rules

The main Reverse-Clash Lu Ma passage discusses Bing-Wu and Ding-Si days, using strong summer Fire and repeated Wu-Horse or Si to invoke Officer (the role family that controls the birth-day element, often interpreted through rules and demands) in the opposite Water branch. Its direction reverses Flying Heavenly Lu Ma, without creating a missing Zi or Hai in the birth chart.

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How do Bing-Wu and Ding-Si invoke Officer?

Gui is Officer for Bing and is hidden in Zi; Ren is Officer for Ding and is hidden in Hai. Bing-Wu therefore invokes Zi through Wu-Horse, and Ding-Si invokes Hai through Si. Ren and Gui do not have identical roles for both Fire stems.

Main-source dayRepeated sourceImplicit targetOfficerTarget’s usual combination grouping
Bing-WuWu-HorseZiGuiChou Six Combination; Shen/Chen Water-trine members
Ding-SiSiHaiRenYin Six Combination; Mao/Wei Wood-trine members

What is obstruction, and why is Chen not Si’s Six Combination?

Wu-Horse combines with Wei, and Si with Shen: ordinary ways the source branch may be bound. The passage additionally lists Chen as an obstruction for Ding-Si, although Chen–Si is not a standard Six Combination. It remains a passage-specific condition rather than a new combination rule.

An actual Gui or Zi for Bing, or Ren or Hai for Ding, must first be recognized as a real Officer or branch contact. Visible-Officer interpretation is different from an entirely implicit route.

Can the Hour Pillar participate? Why not use one isolated sentence?

The opening excludes the hour in its wording, but a later account in the same passage explicitly discusses a pattern appearing in Month and Hour rather than the Day Branch (the lower symbol in the birth-day column), and even gives Ding-Si day with Xin-Hai hour. The whole passage cannot be reduced to an absolute ban on the hour.

The compilation preserves different methods. This page uses the main Bing-Wu/Ding-Si summer-Fire account for the basic direction. A detailed decision about hour participation must identify which account is being used.

Why do some accounts list two days and others six?

The main account lists Bing-Wu and Ding-Si; a later version adds Bing-Yin, Bing-Xu, Ding-Wei and Ding-Mao. The closing authorial note favors two days based on the cited verses. The six-day account exists, but is not the same threshold as the main one.

The passage also allows a supported ordinary authority reading instead of rigidly applying the filled-target restriction. Compare the selected account and actual month when readings differ.

What is this useful for?

It helps explain why a Fire-heavy classical case may discuss Water authority, and why actual and implicit Zi–Wu contacts are different interpretive claims. It is not a method for correcting a birth time, adding elements or changing destiny.

Historical claims about office, rank or severe outcomes should not be applied directly to a person today. A clear reading first identifies the Day Master (the birth-day element used as the chart’s reference), real branches, absent target and source version.

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