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Four Clashes in Position: Nayin Birth, Peak and Tomb
Four Clashes in Position asks for more than four branches: each pillar’s Nayin (a separate named element classification for a complete pair of chart symbols) should occupy the relevant Birth, Peak or Tomb position. The source distinguishes the Yin/Shen/Si/Hai, Zi/Wu/Mao/You and Chen/Xu/Chou/Wei sets. Recognizing the Nayin layer explains why Xin-Si can be described as self-Birth.
Which elemental Birth, Peak and Tomb positions does this account use?
This comparison explains the source examples, with Nayin Earth sharing Water’s Shen Birth, Zi Peak and Chen Tomb. It does not replace individual Wu/Ji life-stage tables.
| Nayin element | Birth | Peak | Tomb |
|---|---|---|---|
| Wood | Hai | Mao | Wei |
| Fire | Yin | Wu | Xu |
| Earth | Shen | Zi | Chen |
| Metal | Si | You | Chou |
| Water | Shen | Zi | Chen |
Why are all four pillars in the first example described as self-Birth?
Jia-Shen, Bing-Yin, Xin-Si, Ji-Hai passes calendar-pair checks. For each row, look up the complete pillar’s Nayin and then that element’s Birth branch.
| Source pillar | Nayin | Seated branch | Nayin stage |
|---|---|---|---|
| Jia-Shen (甲申) | Spring Water | Shen | Birth |
| Bing-Yin (丙寅) | Furnace Fire | Yin | Birth |
| Xin-Si (辛巳) | White-Wax Metal | Si | Birth |
| Ji-Hai (己亥) | Flatland Wood | Hai | Birth |
Is Xin at Si not Death, and why is a fetal pillar added?
For the individual Yin Metal stem Xin, Si is indeed Death. For the Metal Nayin of the complete Xin-Si pillar, Si is Metal Birth. Different references produce different labels.
The source adds Ding-Si Fetus, Sand Earth Nayin, to supply the Earth missing from the four Nayin elements. The common fetal derivation from Bing-Yin also yields Ding-Si. This completes five-position Nayin, not another natal Earth stem, and does not make Ding-Si self-Birth.
How do the Peak and Tomb examples correspond?
The Peak example is Xin-Mao, Geng-Zi, Gui-You, Wu-Wu: Wood/Earth/Metal/Fire Nayin at Mao/Zi/You/Wu respectively. Earth’s Peak at Zi belongs to this Nayin Earth-with-Water convention.
The Tomb example is Yi-Chou, Gui-Wei, Bing-Chen, Ren-Chen plus Jia-Xu Fetus: Metal/Wood/Earth/Water/Fire Nayin at Chou/Wei/Chen/Chen/Xu. The natal branches are Chou/Wei/Chen/Chen and lack Xu; the fetal addition supplies it. The four natal branches alone do not contain all four storehouses.
Both natal charts pass calendar-pair checks, and Gui-Wei Month yields Jia-Xu Fetus under the same common rule. A stated derivation still does not make Fetus a fifth birth pillar.
Why keep examining interactions after all four Meng branches appear?
The later chart Ren-Shen, Xin-Hai, Ji-Si, Bing-Yin contains the four Meng branches but has Metal/Metal/Wood/Fire Nayin, so it is not fourfold self-Birth like the first example. Xin-Si, Bing-Shen, Ding-Hai, Ren-Yin has stem-and-branch combinations in both Year/Month and Day/Hour pairs, yet Si/Hai and Yin/Shen clashes and the Yin/Si/Shen punishment remain. Both charts have compatible calendar pairs.
The source offers differing historical explanations of the later lives; they are not verified predictive laws. The useful method is to separate complete-pillar Nayin, stage, fetal participation and all remaining actual relationships.
Continue reading
- Special patterns overview
Distinguish local configurations, whole-chart methods and source cases.
- Life–Death Embrace: individual Yin/Yang stem stages
Distinguish the references behind the stage tables.
- Officer and actual authority relations
Return the placement to the month and whole chart.